Jesurgislac’s Journal

March 13, 2009

Kathryn Cramer reminds me of fail

Filed under: Internet — jesurgislac @ 12:15 am
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I got a “cease and desist” e-mail from Kathryn Cramer (whose public writings have been referenced on this blog in Stupid Things People Say On The Internet 4960, Kathryn Cramer: fail, fail, and fail, and Verb Noire: this matters) – subject line Ordover, which I presume is something meaningful to her, though damned if I can figure out what. [Update: someone tagged in a previous post because he was mentioned by name.] Nor can I reply, really, since she repeats her request that I “never contact her again”.

I have e-mailed her exactly twice. The second time, in response to an e-mail instructing me to never contact her again (March 4th), I wrote:

Dear Kathryn,

I will certainly never contact you again.

Your request that the name “Kathryn Cramer” should not be used when blogging about you will be given all the consideration it deserves.

Thanks,

Je Surgis Lac

She also claims that I have been “harassing her friends” (at the moment, I have no idea who they might be) and “those who speak positively about her”.

Kathryn, for what it’s worth: while I doubt I would bother to harass someone for speaking positively about you, it’s also true that ever since you outed Coffeeandink, demanded an apology from her for telling people you’d outed her, talked a lot of racist crap about the ‘lizardoid minions’, threatened to sue her for talking about your threats and harassment, and above all since [Update: correction. From a comment Ann Somerville linked to below, it appears Kathryn Cramer is not the person John Scalzi excoriated and banned from his blog for trying again to out Coffeeandink: I withdraw the accusation, and delete it.] you tried to use John Scalzi’s blog to out Coffeeandink again- I truly haven’t seen a single person anywhere who is speaking positively about you. I’m sorry. Even I think that makes you a pathetic toad of a person, in Scalzi’s memorable phrase. [Second update, 14th March: Okay, I take that back. Will Shetterly, who also outed Coffeeandink, but then seemed to regret what he'd done and want to atone for it, has changed his mind and decided that Coffeeandink deserved to be outed against her will and Kathryn Cramer was "falsely accused". In Will Shetterly's world, apparently, being "falsely accused" means (a) you did exactly what you were accused of doing but (b) the person whom you did it to was a lying slut who deserved it and (c) she therefore owes you an apology for telling other people about what you were doing to her, she ought to have shut up and acted properly shamed. This, Will Shetterly identifies as being "unsexist" and "chivalrous". So I take it back: there is one other person speaking positively about you, Kathryn Cramer, and that's the person who joined you in outing Coffeeandink.]

Nevertheless, Kathryn: I have not been in touch with you since March 4th. That I persist in using your real name when I blog about the things you do, is your own choice. Indeed, you have been very emphatic in the the recent past that the only name you want to use on the Internet is Kathryn Cramer. So you are and remain: Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer, Kathryn Cramer. Your problem. Not mine.

3 Comments »

  1. Hi – is there any evidence that Cramer was behind the attempted outing on Scalzi’s blog? Since he banned the troll’s IP addy and she posted on his blog not long after, I tend to think it’s not her. Poss Luke Jackson again, since he’s also hanging around? I have no love for this woman at *all* but I’m also against unfair accusations of wrong doing.

    Comment by Ann Somerville — March 13, 2009 @ 6:15 am | Reply

  2. Ann, thanks for this: have you got a link to the post/comment where Cramer posted after Scalzi banned the person who tried again to out Coffeeandink? I’ll update my post.

    Comment by jesurgislac — March 13, 2009 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  3. here:
    http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/03/10/the-internets-hate-scalzi/#comment-134415

    It’s the only one I’ve seen, though I have to admit I don’t have the patience to wade through hundreds of adulatory, clueless and some outright racist comments.

    Luke Jackson posted here:
    http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/03/10/the-internets-hate-scalzi/#comment-134335

    And at least once more. Both of them undoubtedly know enough about internet shenanigans to mask their IPs, of course.

    It didn’t strike as Cramer’s style. Jackson, well, all bets are off with him.

    Comment by Ann Somerville — March 13, 2009 @ 9:24 am | Reply


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